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Lesson 2. Qayerdan?: the ablative -dan; -gacha, and the postpositions keyin and oldin

I can say where I'm from and where I'm coming from, how I travel, from where to where, and what I do before and after work.

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Qayerdan? Kimdan? The ablative

Qayerdan? Kimdan? The ablative

The questions qayerdan? (“where from?”) and kimdan? (“from whom?”) are answered by the ablative case. The ending is the same for every word, -dan: Toshkentdan “from Tashkent”, bozordan “from the bazaar”, doʻstimdan “from my friend”. English “from”, “out of”, and “off” are all -dan. You already know this form: Men Amerikadanman — “I'm from America”. Now you can say it about any place: add the personal ending to the -dan word — Samarqanddanman, Toshkentdansiz. For “he” and “she” there is no ending: U Samarqanddan. Pronouns: mendan, sendan, sizdan, undan (with an n), bizdan, sizlardan, ulardan. The pointing words take the same n: bu — bundan (“from this”), shu — shundan (“from this one we're talking about”). The vehicle you ride is a “where”, with the ending -da: avtobusda, taksida, metroda — English “by bus”, “by taxi”, and “by subway”. You get off or out of it with -dan: taksidan tushaman. In conversation you'll also hear ostanovka and otpusk, but the course uses the literary words bekat and taʼtil. Common mistakes: • NOT “dan Toshkent” → Toshkentdan • NOT “Men Samarqanddan” (about yourself) → Men Samarqanddanman • NOT “Avtobusni olaman” (for “I take the bus”) → Avtobusda boraman
Where from? From whom?

The ending -dan is the same for all words.

QuestionFormIn English
qayerdan?Toshkentdan, bozordan, uyimdan, bu yerdanfrom Tashkent, from the bazaar, from my house, from here
kimdan?doʻstimdan, onamdanfrom my friend, from my mom
pronounsmendan, sendan, sizdan, undan, bizdan, sizlardan, ulardanfrom me, from you (informal), from you (formal), from him (from her), from us, from you (to several people), from them
What we ride on and where we get off

“On what” is a “where”: the ending -da. What you get off takes “from”: -dan.

TransportationOn whatGet off
avtobusavtobusdaavtobusdan tushmoq
taksitaksidataksidan tushmoq
metrometroda—
poyezdpoyezddapoyezddan tushmoq
samolyotsamolyotdasamolyotdan tushmoq
on footpiyoda—
Lesson notes
Qayerdan? Kimdan? The ablative
The questions qayerdan? (“where from?”) and kimdan? (“from whom?”) are answered by the ablative case. The ending is the same for every word, -dan: Toshkentdan “from Tashkent”, bozordan “from the bazaar”, doʻstimdan “from my friend”. English “from”, “out of”, and “off” are all -dan. You already know this form: Men Amerikadanman — “I'm from America”. Now you can say it about any place: add the personal ending to the -dan word — Samarqanddanman, Toshkentdansiz. For “he” and “she” there is no ending: U Samarqanddan. Pronouns: mendan, sendan, sizdan, undan (with an n), bizdan, sizlardan, ulardan. The pointing words take the same n: bu — bundan (“from this”), shu — shundan (“from this one we're talking about”). The vehicle you ride is a “where”, with the ending -da: avtobusda, taksida, metroda — English “by bus”, “by taxi”, and “by subway”. You get off or out of it with -dan: taksidan tushaman. In conversation you'll also hear ostanovka and otpusk, but the course uses the literary words bekat and taʼtil. Common mistakes: • NOT “dan Toshkent” → Toshkentdan • NOT “Men Samarqanddan” (about yourself) → Men Samarqanddanman • NOT “Avtobusni olaman” (for “I take the bus”) → Avtobusda boraman
Until, after, and before: -gacha, keyin, oldin
-gacha means “up to, until”: Samarqandgacha “as far as Samarkand”, soat oltigacha “until six o'clock”. After k and q the first letter changes, as with -ga: eshikkacha, qirqqacha “up to forty”. Together with -dan it makes “from … to …”: Toshkentdan Samarqandgacha, dushanbadan jumagacha. The words keyin (“after”) and oldin (“before”) go AFTER the noun, unlike English “after” and “before”: they are postpositions, not prepositions. These two postpositions need -dan: ishdan keyin “after work”, darsdan oldin “before class”. Common mistakes: • NOT “keyin ish” → ishdan keyin • NOT “ishning keyin” → ishdan keyin • NOT “eshikgacha” → eshikkacha